Heroes & Villains (The Signing)

On Thursday, August 31 I went downtown for the  Launch LA reception celebrating the publication of Heroes & Villains.  The above photo is me peering in to the book signing.  For those loyal followers of betweenparents, you may recall that H & V is a collection of brilliant photos by my dear friend Tatiana Wills and  photography partner, Roman Cho.  [Click the links to go back in time and read my interview with Tatiana--Part 1 & Part 2.]

Here are a few photos from the event:

See the woman up there in the middle?  Her name is Seonna Hong and she’s a painter and animator.   I have that dress too.  This makes me feel very cool.

Here Tatiana and Roman are surrounded by books to sign.

This is a mock up from the book.  The gallery exhibit showed prints from the book as well as pre-publication snaps and layouts.

Matt Groening is one of the artists whose portrait graces Heroes & Villains and he came to the signing.  Actually a lot of the artists featured in the book were there, pen in hand.   I’m wondering if this post sort of closes out my writing on street artists.  I hope not.  Unfortunately, NYC isn’t going to get the Art in the Streets exhibit.  I don’t know that there’s any official word on where the show will travel next.  That hasn’t stopped the discussion of street artists credibility and merit from continuing.  Tatiana and Roman have given us Heroes & Villains.  And click here to link to a story just published in the LA Times today.  It seems Art in the Streets at MOCA had the highest attendance of any show in the museum’s history.

“The voice of inner necessity” (Part 2)

Photographer Tatiana Wills

The second part of my interview with Tatiana focused on her creative process and balancing that with motherhood.  One favorite thing that Tatiana said was this, “My process is never the same and always the same.  I go into a project understanding what I want to get out of it.  And not just the money.  It’s about values.  Do I like working with the people I’m working with?  Am I staying true to what I want to do?”

Tatiana is a photographer who does freelance work, develops her own creative projects and has a family.  I really wanted to hear how she makes it all happen.  For me and so many other artists that I know, motherhood and even housework end up taking precedence over the creative stuff.  How to balance that?

“I do get done what I need to get done, but there’s always conflict.  It never feels perfectly in balance.  And I don’t always do it well.  Half the time someone’s mad at me.  Where’s dinner?  I didn’t get the shopping done—again.  I’m late a lot.  That’s one of my favorite questions—Where’s dinner?  Because I really do love to cook.”

Tatiana was clear and eloquent in talking about her commitment to her family so I’m taking out my interjections for now.  She said, “Someone always needs something and that makes it hard to keep momentum and motivation but I’ve learned to adapt.  I’ve also set it up that way, to be needed by my family because that’s the kind of mother I want to be. I am also aware that this is a phase of my life and that time with my daughter before she goes off on her own is limited and precious.  It takes a lot of planning.  My daughter’s away this month so I know I have time to focus on me and my stuff.  I get frustrated sometimes, but I’m focused.  Sometimes I have to say, This is what I need right now.  Sorry.”

“I think it’s different for men.  Men get to go into their cave and take their time.  Women still have to ask for it.  But it’s changing and eventually people do get into a habit.  I am too available, but I’ve created that.  My husband and I share values and our paths cross because of it.  We also have screaming fights over who’s going to do what.  But that’s marriage [laughing] I am fortunate to have a wonderful partner in life who isn’t afraid to take up the slack or the reigns when necessary! We do for each other and that helps tremendously.  I feel guilty a lot.  I don’t call my mother enough.  I hear that I’m too busy, that I’m always busy.  And it’s true that I should call more.  I want to call more. But I have to be okay with the fact that I can’t do it all.”

“You hear about great architects and artists with a non-existent family life.  They’re only known really for their work.  I don’t want that.  I work very hard to have my family time be a really positive part of my life, of my work.  The work can dry up.  I’d be miserable if that happened, but it could happen.  You have to be true to what you value.  If you, personally, don’t value being a good wife and feel like it’s just something you have to do, then don’t do it.  It’s not the right reason.”

“I find that there aren’t a lot of people with a daughter my age who also have a professional life.  If someone makes the choice is to stay home and be a wife and mother, I hope that’s okay for them.  Portland is a great place to live and do work, but I don’t have a lot of female friends.  I have more male friends through working.  We have a constant joke that whoever I’m with, whoever’s on my left or right, people will assume that’s my husband.  People think that Roman and I are married or together or something.  That I can’t possibly just be out doing things on my own.  I almost want to do a project on that.”

“You had asked me in an email about doing things alone.  I’m not sure what’s next.  I try to make the projects relevant.  I always wanted to shoot dancers.  So I had the chance and I pretty much made that my job.  There’s a lot to be said for understanding how you’re perceived.  I’ve reached a point where I no longer worry so much about what my personal or professional work will mean to others. I realize it’s more important to do what compels and inspires me. I love the idea of using portraiture to explore more burgeoning scenes in the creative world because it suits me and speaks to what I love being around.”

“Right now my focus in on the dance world. There are quite a few interesting choreographers and performers in this area that have come from all over the world to work.  It is very exciting! I’ve been shooting choreographers and dancers for the past year and hope to continue it for much longer.”

“The work I choose to do these days has to be in line with what I’ve already accomplished.  I don’t want to spend time photographing things that aren’t meaningful to me, that compromises everything else I’ve worked really hard to have!  I could go out and get any old photo job.  I’ve done other things beside photography too.  But I don’t have a lot of time to think about it. I seem to just keep going. [laughing] Maybe I drink too much coffee?”

If that’s the case, then I want to buy this woman an espresso.  You can make mine a double. I want to thank Tatiana for sharing her thoughts and her time.  It’s inspiring to see friends finding success doing the things they love.  Finding the balance between parenting and creative work is something I hope to keep exploring at least until I get it all figured out or my girls grow up and leave home.

Click here to find out more about Heroes & Villains and Zero+ Publishing and to order your very own copy.

To find out more Tatiana & Roman, here a few links to interviews they’ve done                    LA Weekly and Fecal Face Dot Com.

And the link to Tatiana’s site (Check out her portfolios.  I love the shots of the dancers!).

“The voice of inner necessity” (Part 1)

Photographer Tatiana Wills

Loving books and art and photographs and my friends are all forms of everyday wonderful.  Having a friend publish a gorgeous book of photographs of artists’ portraits that I can pore over is incredible.  My friend Tatiana Wills and co-photographer Roman Cho have published Heroes & Villains with an essay and interviews by Amanda Erlanson.  For Heroes & Villains, Tatiana and Roman spent the last six years meeting, courting and photographing key figures in the street art, comic book and alternative contemporary art scene.  The portraits are straightforward, funny, fierce, evocative, clear and honest.  The LA Weekly called the book “badass” and that would also be correct.

Tatiana and I met through our daughters about 5 years ago.  We keep talking about working together.  As a gentle first step, we talked for a couple of hours recently about the book, street art, motherhood and being an artist.  Tatiana and I can talk for a long time so I’ve split up the conversation into two parts.  This first part is about H & V.  The second post will cover art and motherhood.

Tatiana and Roman first worked together at an ad agency while both continued to work independently on other projects as well.  When Tatiana left the agency, she and Roman started kicking around some ideas for a project to do together.  H & V came out of personal interests and the need for a creative project to stay motivated while doing freelance work.

Tatiana’s husband, Justin, knew some of the street artists they’ve photographed.  Between these friendships, the support of gallery owners (mostly in LA) and hard work, the project came together over time.  In talking with Tatiana about the nature of street art and comic books, I got a clear sense of the outsider status of the artists they photographed in the early phase of the project.   As they were working on the portraits, Tatiana and Roman saw that status change and these marginal art forms have become more accepted.  Some examples of the move toward center are found in the current exhibit Art in the Streets at MOCA, the Oscar-nominated film Exit at the Gift Shop and Shepard Fairey’s iconic image for the Obama campaign.

The beginning of the project was fueled in part by the enthusiasm of the gallery owners who were showing these artists.  Artists like David Choe got interested and introduced Tatiana and Roman to other local artists.  Word spread and the collaboration between Tatiana and Roman went to a deeper level with recommendations of who to shoot from artists active in the scene.  Tatiana said, “This is when it got really exciting for me…And then we had people coming to us and asking to be included.  We were shooting for the project, but not everything was going to end up in the book.  The picture had to be good…The project always had a fine arts aspect to it.  We both dislike the idea that just because it’s a photo of a celebrity, it’s automatically good.  That kind of annoys me and you can print that [laughing].  It doesn’t get said often enough.”

As the project progressed, it became more defined and gained shape from momentum and attention.  Most artists are familiar with this process.  You start out with one idea, one question and end up in a most unexpected place.  For Tatiana and Roman, a project created to build up their portfolios became much larger in scope and a central theme of observation developed.

Tatiana talked about Shepard Fairey and some of the more high profile street artists featured in the book.  While we were talking, Tatiana had to step out of her studio because an artist who remains anonymous had come by.  “Street artists were so involved with their work.  You see someone like Shepard Fairey who’s so high profile now, but the idea is that he went from someone who’s an outlier, to becoming more accepted.  That was what the project was about—what is popular, what is mainstream.  Amanda Erlanson wrote the essay for the book and it’s really good.  She says all of this so well, in a way that I never could.  I’m not an art critic or anything.  You have to read the essay and interviews in the book.”  Tatiana’s right, the essay is a great read.  It really places the photographs in the context of the contemporary art scene.

The book that Tatiana and Roman have created contains lasting portraits of many artists who have moved from fringe to center recently.  The path of creating H & V parallels that trajectory.   “A lot of these artists have found ways to make a living without following the traditional steps.  We had the same experience.  The galleries really helped in coming up with artists and things spread by word of mouth from other artists and we did our own research.  And where it’s all going is fascinating.  Working on the street, artists like Know Hope, they’re doing great stuff and they end up with just a photo of their work.  That’s what’s lasting.”

For the lucky artists in H & V, they also walk away with a portrait of themselves published in good company.  Looking at the portraits in H & V, the clarity of the pictures makes it seem as though they were created effortlessly.  This is a mark of real craft, skill and talent.  Tatiana is a wonderful supporter of other artists so the subject matter of H & V made perfect sense to me.

I titled this article, “The voice of inner necessity” after seeing the quote by Kandinsky in Erlanson’s essay for H & V.  Street artists don’t know how long their work will last, who’s seeing it or the reaction to it.  But there’s a compulsion to get their work out there, in public.  There’s an inner voice that compels us to write poetry, take photographs, make our art.  For street artists, Tatiana talked about the push to get the art out there and she commented on my piece about the show Playing Field at the Carmichael Gallery.  She said, “What happens when you bring the work inside?  How does it change?  Will it change?  Where will it go next?  I just don’t know.” It’ll be interesting to see and hopefully Tatiana will be there to record it.

Before H & V was a completed book, some of the portraits were featured at the Corey Helford Gallery in Culver City.  The show was just listed as a standout by the LA Weekly.

Click here to find out more about Heroes & Villains and Zero+ Publishing and to order your very own copy.

To find out more Tatiana & Roman, here a few links to interviews they’ve done                    LA Weekly and Fecal Face Dot Com.

And the link to Tatiana’s site (Check out her portfolios.  I love the shots of the dancers!).

Part 2 of our conversation coming up tomorrow…